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ANIMATION: Ugly vs Attractive

Posted by HotDiggedyDemon - October 30th, 2008


Hey friends. It's me, Max Gilardi. If you don't mind I'm gunna say some words now.

A recent trend among animation aficionados is to criticize the lack of aesthetic appeal that modern cartoons have. Whereas once animation was painstakingly sketched and inked by skilled artisans, it is now a mishmash of clunky, unattractive lumps that looks like it was drawn by a five year old having an epileptic fit. And so, droves of cartoon-lovers take to the Internet to reminisce about how good animation USED to be.

To me this is very ironic because animation is better now then it's ever been.

I think there's been a change in prime directive when it comes to cartoons. They're drawn differently nowadays, and that seems to be the thing everyone focuses on. Nobody talks about how they're WRITTEN differently. This may sound pretentious, and maybe it is, but I'm not impressed by good animation. I'm just not. Any time of the day I can just flick on my TV and see good animation in a goddamn cereal commercial. Granted, the colors are a little obnoxious, but the characters move with amazing fluidity. How bittersweet it is that all of today's visually-impressive animation is monopolized by the Trix rabbit and the Lucky Charms leprechaun. So it's almost like animation has been commoditized these days. It's being churned out ad nauseum in Japan. So in a world where good animation is being mass-produced to sell us Cookie Crisp and Fruity Loopies, why do people still consider it valuable? I know I don't. What DO I consider valuable?...

Good animation is easy. Good writing is rare.

Now, I'm not saying that good writing and good animation can't coexist. The problem is I feel like more often than not I'm forced to choose between the two. When this happens, good animation never stands a chance. Nothing's worse then a cartoon with a great visual style accompanied by an infantile, boring, idiotic, uninteresting story. Because of this, I often find myself not liking the stuff those animation aficionados go on and on about. The so-called "infallible" stuff is incredibly blasé to me. Subsequently, I've become the guy who loves the stuff the haters love to hate and the guy who hates the stuff the lovers love to love. Simple, no? Sometimes I feel like I'm alone in this boat, but I try not to think about it too much.

When I think back to all my favorite cartoons, all of them have been "ugly". Every single goddamn one. I think ugly cartoons have sort of an indescribable charm that makes them so lovable. I couldn't, for the life of me, begin to express what I mean here. The ability to draw amazingly well is something that very few people possess, so it's almost like drawing a cartoon poorly makes it more relatable to the rest of us. Does that make sense? It makes it Quaint, it makes it Humble. 20 years ago, The Simpsons was responsible for a paradigm shift in the way animation is written. Whereas once-upon-a-time animation was written by cartoonist and animators, it is now written by writers and comedians. Some people will look you straight in the eye and tell you this is the worst thing to ever happen to animation, but for me, it was the best thing. Who could write better than a writer? Let the writers write and let the animators animate.

A lot of people have been asking me what cartoons inspired me to get into animating, so I thought I'd share with you my biggest influences. But instead of showing you loopy toons and marty mouse from "the golden years", I'm gunna show you this...

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Home Movies is perhaps the most underrated show in history. I used to have laughing fits watching it late late at night when I was a kid. My parents would get pissed. You can watch whole episodes on youtube now....

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Space Ghost and Perfect Hair Forever have some of the most delightfully avant-garde writing I've seen. I feel like this stuff might be really polarizing because it can be too unusual and too out-of-the-box for some people, but I still love it. Perfect Hair is actually one of my favorite things ever shown on television. Once again, whole episodes are on youtube.

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There's this new show on HBO called "The Life and Times of Tim". It's only been on for about 3 weeks and it's already one of my favorite shows. HBO is a channel with shitloads of cash, and they could afford to make beautiful animation if they wanted to. So why don't they? Hmmm...

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...If you haven't deduced this by now, I'm only using a pejorative term like "ugly" to articulate the argument I'm trying to make here. I don't think any of these cartoons are ugly, just different. Additionally, there's something to be said about good animation; it can actually be a distraction. I was watching a movie last night wherein the characters moved with fluidity, and the animation was very impressive. I couldn't pay attention to the story. I was hypnotized by the fact that all the characters were physically over-acting and enunciated every verbal cue with a goofy, unnecessary gesture. It was a sensory overload.

Do you guys know what Wabi-Sabi is? It's a Japanese term. Bobby Hill described it best on an episode of King of the Hill, it's "Finding beauty in what's flawed, like the crack in the Liberty Bell or the mole on Cindy Crawford's cheek."

If something that's flawed is beautiful BECAUSE it's flawed, then wouldn't that make a show like South Park the most attractive show on television?

Think about it.

ANIMATION: Ugly vs Attractive


Comments

first comment cool clips

Yeah, so true

A very good point and i definately agree with you, Writing should definatly come above animation, but i think it would be better to see good animation and writing put together where possible. Because while writing is more important all the way, and shows with not so fluid animation and great writing are still excellent, it would be good to see something that has both just to show people that its perfectly possible to have both, not saying different animations crap or that it doesn't have charm or even help to make a show funny or stylish, but if your capable of creating something with excellence in both, why not?

You've raised a very good point and it should be interesting to see what others think.

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Well and I, could trace your private number baby
All I know is that to me
You look like you're lots of fun
Open up your lovin' arms
I want some

Well I...I set my sights on you
(and no one else will do)
And I, I've got to have my way now, baby
(and no one else will do)
And I, I've got to have my way now, baby
All I know is that to me
You look like you're havin' fun
Open up your lovin' arms
Watch out, here I come

*You spin me right round, baby
right round like a record, baby
Right round round round
You spin me right round, baby
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Home Movies is such a great show, I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU AMERICANS.
Also, Life and Times of Tim is also hilarious so far.

THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

why the FUCK did they cancel home movies?...

however the Simpsons time has run out

ITS GETTING OLD AND UN-FUNNY PEOPLE

I agree. Most of the time the "poor" animation styles, or different styles do have better writing. Plus, now that animation has turned to comedians and etc. It makes it so much better. The only show I didn't like you mentioned was Home Movies. I dunno why, But it just didn't appeal to me.

I don't like the simpsons now though. I loved it as a kid, but now 8 years later, It's just not as funny. December 17, 1989 i think is when they first aired. After this long, the jokes and style of humor are bound to get boring and I want something new.

Then I saw Family Guy, but lately I've been noticing sometimes it is like the simpsons.

I'm so shallow :(

It isnt so much of what is ugly and what is attractive but but the animation style is trying to portray.............

The Canadian animation 'stickin around' .....may have been loosely animated......but it was that it was meant to seem like it was animated by kids for kids.....the series was a successful through this nature

there's a rather large difference between limited animation and ugly animation
but noone can tell the difference anymore apparently

Funny. I love every last one of those shows.

Perfect Hair looks great, but I never saw that aired here in Australia.. Though you got me watching it on YouTube like a year ago I think.

Holy crap I can't agree with you more

I also love the shout out to Home Movies. I think it is one of the best written cartoons of all time

I absolutely loved space ghost! And that episode you linked was easily one of my favorites.

As much as I'd love for all my animations to look like total awesomeness, I have neither the skill nor the time to do so. I'd much rather focus on the story and writing, but unfortunately you just can't convince some people to look past the visuals. Good to know I'm not alone about the subject.

i dont like south park not because its ugly but because the voices are so annoying sounding... NEEDS MORE RINA CHAN. lmao.

I saw The Life and Times of Tim the other day and immediately had to look it up on IMDB because I could swear Jeremy Lokken was involved... Something about the characters eyes.

<a href="http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/380249">http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view /380249</a>

He apparently wasn't involved though. It makes me sad that more NG alumni aren't on TV right now, although there are many who are - they just don't get their names in the spotlight; not many people do.

But yeah one of my big complaints with NG for a while now has been we have some great writers and comedians and some great animators and artists, but they are often mutually exclusive. We intend to change all of that. We have lofty goals that we hope to reach by the end of this year. Lets all join hands and pray.

Crude animation is easy to reproduce and animate. The more sophisticated the animation gets the more professional the animator needs to be.

And the more professional the animator is the more they cost. So I think that is why AdultSwim, Comedy Central..HBO.. all lean towards the crude style. Because they still get ratings and they cost a fraction of 'full' animation.

John K (Ren&Stimpy) believes that we can achieve full animation at a lower cost, but i'm not 100% convinced. <a href="http://www.johnkstuff.blogspot.com/">http://www.johnkstuff.blogspot.com/</a>

Home Movies was fab, but a couple years later Adult Swim decided to take the awkward unorganised style of Home Movies and fucking MASS PRODUCE like A BILLION cartoons with the same style but horrifically unfunny jokes. So now whenever I see something that moves like that I just think AW FUCK, NOT MORE O THIS UNFUNNY SHITE and change the channel.

and South Park's total bollocks n all.

Problem is South Park is rarely more than parody of a movie, tv show or video game nowadays. The writing of the show has really declined, to the point where there are rarely more than 5 jokes, and even those are repeated over. I hear they now write the show, record voices and get it animated all roughly 1 week before they air. They need to take more time in the writing I think.

I've only seen animation as a medium to express your thoughts and ideas, Like film,painting, photography or writing. If the point of what you are trying to convey gets across, then thats all that really matters.

Who cares if you make a heartwarming tale with two sockpuppets, as long as it delivers.

naturally people who animate for the love of the craft tend to harp on the technical aspects of it, and lose sight of the point of the piece being scrutinized, but that goes for all mediums.

home movies is amazing. brendan small is a genius

I hope people that comment will read the whole post because you make some very good points. I think that, above all, animation in storytelling is a means to an end. There is experimental animation that tries to push that boundary but when it comes to matching the visual elements with the written and vocally performed ones it comes down what is best for the story. I really think that some of the better shows you pointed out with their "limited/ugly" animation worked so well because they all perfectly fit the tone of the show. Dr Katz with his squiqqle vision was a deadpan psychiatrist, SpaceGhost is a talk show host who rarely moves, Home Movies centers around those three kids and stories are often mirrored in the home movies they make so it has this amateur, homemade, Sunday morning comic strip feel to it. But even a lot can be said about the Simpsons with their cinematic camera angles, crazy situations with real life emotion and even an inner commentary on cartoons themselves (specifically cartoon animals... the animals in the Simpsons always act like animations and aren't anthropomorphized apart from when they make fun of that in Itchy and Scratchy)... perfect examples of style fitting tone. Likewise, though, there are moments where wonderfully fluid and well drafted animation does, in fact, fit the tone of the story... like Goofy's sports with his super elastic body and Tom and Jerry with the absence of dialogue and stressed completely on acting. The last thing I'll comment on is the comment about flaws marking beauty: a lot of the animation being produced with computers has such crisp line edges and precise coloring that some people feel that traditional hand drawn animation DOES have that flaw of human error to it; the whole idea that the tiny staggering of a hand with blood being pumped through it gives the picture vitality. Maybe that's why some of the more "flawed" animations produced using Flash and After Effects are sometimes even more preferable to the eye than super smooth animations with the same programs. Still, bringing back to my original point of style meeting tone... Foster's Home is an example of smooth animation with the computer crisp edges, but it fits the tone of the show being not just imaginary characters -- but the way they act and the situations they're in are very glossy and peppy and... crisp -- so it works.

That was a great post and in essence I agree with you. I don't have an aversion to good animation just because people think it's good, but apart from my creative fascination it won't hold me unless the story, style, tone, and pacing match each other... which is a very hard thing to do -- and that is what I think makes a really great experience. Whew... that was fun! (= Sorry if I got a little carried away... but it says that I've got 5327 characters remaining still!

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