Yeah, so true
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A very good point and i definately agree with you, Writing should definatly come above animation, but i think it would be better to see good animation and writing put together where possible. Because while writing is more important all the way, and shows with not so fluid animation and great writing are still excellent, it would be good to see something that has both just to show people that its perfectly possible to have both, not saying different animations crap or that it doesn't have charm or even help to make a show funny or stylish, but if your capable of creating something with excellence in both, why not?
You've raised a very good point and it should be interesting to see what others think.
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Home Movies is such a great show, I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU AMERICANS.
Also, Life and Times of Tim is also hilarious so far.
THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
why the FUCK did they cancel home movies?...
however the Simpsons time has run out
ITS GETTING OLD AND UN-FUNNY PEOPLE
I agree. Most of the time the "poor" animation styles, or different styles do have better writing. Plus, now that animation has turned to comedians and etc. It makes it so much better. The only show I didn't like you mentioned was Home Movies. I dunno why, But it just didn't appeal to me.
I don't like the simpsons now though. I loved it as a kid, but now 8 years later, It's just not as funny. December 17, 1989 i think is when they first aired. After this long, the jokes and style of humor are bound to get boring and I want something new.
Then I saw Family Guy, but lately I've been noticing sometimes it is like the simpsons.
I'm so shallow :(
It isnt so much of what is ugly and what is attractive but but the animation style is trying to portray.............
The Canadian animation 'stickin around' .....may have been loosely animated......but it was that it was meant to seem like it was animated by kids for kids.....the series was a successful through this nature
there's a rather large difference between limited animation and ugly animation
but noone can tell the difference anymore apparently
Funny. I love every last one of those shows.
Perfect Hair looks great, but I never saw that aired here in Australia.. Though you got me watching it on YouTube like a year ago I think.
Holy crap I can't agree with you more
I also love the shout out to Home Movies. I think it is one of the best written cartoons of all time
I absolutely loved space ghost! And that episode you linked was easily one of my favorites.
As much as I'd love for all my animations to look like total awesomeness, I have neither the skill nor the time to do so. I'd much rather focus on the story and writing, but unfortunately you just can't convince some people to look past the visuals. Good to know I'm not alone about the subject.
i dont like south park not because its ugly but because the voices are so annoying sounding... NEEDS MORE RINA CHAN. lmao.
I saw The Life and Times of Tim the other day and immediately had to look it up on IMDB because I could swear Jeremy Lokken was involved... Something about the characters eyes.
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He apparently wasn't involved though. It makes me sad that more NG alumni aren't on TV right now, although there are many who are - they just don't get their names in the spotlight; not many people do.
But yeah one of my big complaints with NG for a while now has been we have some great writers and comedians and some great animators and artists, but they are often mutually exclusive. We intend to change all of that. We have lofty goals that we hope to reach by the end of this year. Lets all join hands and pray.
Crude animation is easy to reproduce and animate. The more sophisticated the animation gets the more professional the animator needs to be.
And the more professional the animator is the more they cost. So I think that is why AdultSwim, Comedy Central..HBO.. all lean towards the crude style. Because they still get ratings and they cost a fraction of 'full' animation.
John K (Ren&Stimpy) believes that we can achieve full animation at a lower cost, but i'm not 100% convinced. <a href="http://www.johnkstuff.blogspot.com/">http://www.johnkstuff.blogspot.com/</a>
Home Movies was fab, but a couple years later Adult Swim decided to take the awkward unorganised style of Home Movies and fucking MASS PRODUCE like A BILLION cartoons with the same style but horrifically unfunny jokes. So now whenever I see something that moves like that I just think AW FUCK, NOT MORE O THIS UNFUNNY SHITE and change the channel.
and South Park's total bollocks n all.
Problem is South Park is rarely more than parody of a movie, tv show or video game nowadays. The writing of the show has really declined, to the point where there are rarely more than 5 jokes, and even those are repeated over. I hear they now write the show, record voices and get it animated all roughly 1 week before they air. They need to take more time in the writing I think.
I've only seen animation as a medium to express your thoughts and ideas, Like film,painting, photography or writing. If the point of what you are trying to convey gets across, then thats all that really matters.
Who cares if you make a heartwarming tale with two sockpuppets, as long as it delivers.
naturally people who animate for the love of the craft tend to harp on the technical aspects of it, and lose sight of the point of the piece being scrutinized, but that goes for all mediums.
home movies is amazing. brendan small is a genius
I hope people that comment will read the whole post because you make some very good points. I think that, above all, animation in storytelling is a means to an end. There is experimental animation that tries to push that boundary but when it comes to matching the visual elements with the written and vocally performed ones it comes down what is best for the story. I really think that some of the better shows you pointed out with their "limited/ugly" animation worked so well because they all perfectly fit the tone of the show. Dr Katz with his squiqqle vision was a deadpan psychiatrist, SpaceGhost is a talk show host who rarely moves, Home Movies centers around those three kids and stories are often mirrored in the home movies they make so it has this amateur, homemade, Sunday morning comic strip feel to it. But even a lot can be said about the Simpsons with their cinematic camera angles, crazy situations with real life emotion and even an inner commentary on cartoons themselves (specifically cartoon animals... the animals in the Simpsons always act like animations and aren't anthropomorphized apart from when they make fun of that in Itchy and Scratchy)... perfect examples of style fitting tone. Likewise, though, there are moments where wonderfully fluid and well drafted animation does, in fact, fit the tone of the story... like Goofy's sports with his super elastic body and Tom and Jerry with the absence of dialogue and stressed completely on acting. The last thing I'll comment on is the comment about flaws marking beauty: a lot of the animation being produced with computers has such crisp line edges and precise coloring that some people feel that traditional hand drawn animation DOES have that flaw of human error to it; the whole idea that the tiny staggering of a hand with blood being pumped through it gives the picture vitality. Maybe that's why some of the more "flawed" animations produced using Flash and After Effects are sometimes even more preferable to the eye than super smooth animations with the same programs. Still, bringing back to my original point of style meeting tone... Foster's Home is an example of smooth animation with the computer crisp edges, but it fits the tone of the show being not just imaginary characters -- but the way they act and the situations they're in are very glossy and peppy and... crisp -- so it works.
That was a great post and in essence I agree with you. I don't have an aversion to good animation just because people think it's good, but apart from my creative fascination it won't hold me unless the story, style, tone, and pacing match each other... which is a very hard thing to do -- and that is what I think makes a really great experience. Whew... that was fun! (= Sorry if I got a little carried away... but it says that I've got 5327 characters remaining still!
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